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Can someone perhaps remove all the deleted and renamed files from User:Dispenser/Double extension so that only the ones that still need to be fixed are left? Jonteemil (talk) 20:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can do so by forking the Quarry query mentioned in the SQL snippet (look for Fork in the upper right corner of the Quarry page), but I’m not comfortable editing a random other user’s subpage without seeing an explicit permission for doing so. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried forking it, see quarry:query/83409, but it just keeps running. It has run for a week now, yet still running. Jonteemil (talk) 17:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You could try to do just jpg ones or recent uploads.
At File:BSicon_numN327.svg.svg, I noticed the gui at Wikipedia lets you enter an extension and then adds it as well.
Before fixing individual files, I'd try to identify as many tools that create them and fix these first. Otherwise, more files will just be created. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cat-a-lot still doesn't work well

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Though this section was archived because the problem would supposedly have been resolved, Cat-a-lot still doesn't work for subcategories with at least one subcategory. So can this problem get a high priority and really be solved? It is now almost half a year that it arose. JopkeB (talk) 17:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could it be made to work on Special:MediaSearch? Or fix Special:Search to display the full images? Enhancing999 (talk) 09:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js#Editing_"Expand"_on_English_Wikipedia: It seems to try to edit the local version of Expand, which hangs if that page does not exist and edits Expand if it does. This led to en:Expand getting fully protected, so Cat-a-lot skips categories with subcategories. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LaundryPizza03: Is that forever or can it be fixed? Until the beginning of this year it worked well. JopkeB (talk) 03:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What are you talking about? –LaundryPizza03 (d) 05:31, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is the problem (which is getting worse, today I cannot even work with Cat-a-Lot on the Special:Search anymore, only within categories) due to last forever or can it be fixed? This is becoming more and more an unworkable situation. JopkeB (talk) 07:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protection level

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File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg is autopatrol protected so why is there (protectedpagetext: editprotected, edit) system message on it? Is the Wikibase part of the page indeed under full (sysop) protection? --Geohakkeri (talk) 21:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is weird. The text This page is currently protected, and can be edited only by administrators. comes from Template:Protectedpagetext/PageProtected, but the expected text is at Template:Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected. Both of these are transcluded by MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext depending on its first parameter $1. Here's the wikitext:
{{#switch: {{{1|$1}}}
 | editprotected = {{Protectedpagetext/PageProtected}} <!-- Fully protected -->
 | templateeditor = {{Protectedpagetext/PageTemplateProtected}} <!-- Template protected -->
 | editautopatrolprotected = {{Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected}} <!-- editautopatrolprotected -->
 | #default = {{Protectedpagetext/PageSemiProtected}} <!-- Semi-protected -->
}}
Per mw:Manual:Interface/Protectedpagetext: $1 - the raw name of the right which is needed to edit the page. Special:ExpandTemplates for page File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg and wikitext {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}} gives editautopatrolprotected, as expected, but "protection level" and "name of the right" might not be the same. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
editautopatrolprotected was added to MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext in Special:Diff/853065284 by User:GPSLeo, who is also the author of Template:Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected. Perhaps they can check what went wrong. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is the relevant code, I guess. There are editprotected and editsemiprotected hardcoded as the only options there. --Geohakkeri (talk) 20:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, if MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext depended on {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}} rather than the proper parametre, it would be a quick fix at least. --Geohakkeri (talk) 21:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. For reference, English Wikipedia's en:MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext has a similar #switch, with protect, editprotected, templateeditor, and extendedconfirmed.
Searching the code of MediaWiki,[1] I also found mentions of Protectedpagetext in PermissionManager.php,[2] which passes as the first parameter $1 either the string protect or a variable $right, which comes from function getRestrictions of RestrictionStore. My knowledge of PHP is limited, but I'd guess that possible values for restrictions come from $wgRestrictionLevels, hence templateeditor and editautopatrolprotected in Commons' version and templateeditor and extendedconfirmed in enwiki's version. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext|{{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}}}} on File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg would display Template:Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected.
Wonder if it works correctly on enwiki, w:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Protected_page_text/extendedconfirmed has no uses.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg?uselang=qqx shows (protectedpagetext: editprotected, edit)
Not sure what {{CASCADINGSOURCES}} is meant to do.
Maybe we could insert a switch based on Protectionlevel after "|editprotected =". Enhancing999 (talk) 15:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to look into this at test.wikipedia.org, but the settings there are different.
Here what is displayed on a file description page comes from javascript var "wbmiProtectionMsg". This might be filled with the actual protection level of the javascript source. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes

  1. git grep -i protectedpagetext -- '.' ':^languages/'
  2. note the manual mapping of sysop and autoconfirmed needed for backwards compatibility

Template presentation wigging out

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{{By color}} is displaying some CSS on Category:Orange gradient. I don't recall seeing this before and have used this template on several other pages. —Justin (koavf)TCM 01:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to come from Template:Gradient, possibly transcluded there after a change by @OmegaFallon: on Template:By color [1] adding Template:Translated meta category name. Enhancing999 (talk) 03:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interface administrator requests at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js

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There are several edit requests for interface administrators at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js. The following edit requests have diffs with proposals. In order of importance:

  1. Bug fix: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/Archive 3#Minor edit unmarking feature not working (Special thanks to User:Miraclepine for reporting the bug.)
  2. Localization fix: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/Archive 3#Mobile-frontend-return-to-page
  3. UI tweak: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/Archive 3#Please add link to Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot in the box

The page MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js already has instances of {{Edit request}}. Because of it, these new requests won't show up in watchlists of those watching Category:Commons protected edit requests for interface administrators. Hence this additional message at Village pump. —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lucas Werkmeister, as the most recently active interface administrator with recent edits in Gadgets, could you please take a look? —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did two of them, leaving the third one open for feedback for a moment. And yeah, the watchlist issue is a general problem with the current edit request system – MediaWiki talk:Copyupload-allowed-domains also suffers from it from time to time. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 21:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I've struck out the completed requests above. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Third one also done, and I’ll see if I can deal with Valerio’s edit request too, to get this out of the category. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've disabled Valerio's request. Nardog proposed a bugfix two days ago in MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js § Random unexpected failures at enwiki. —⁠andrybak (talk) 00:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Updated the links to the archived sections. Struck out the third request, which was implemented in Special:Diff/885487790. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Section MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js#Random unexpected failures at enwiki has a patch, which is already tested. Could an interface administrator please take a look? —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:24, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:AntiCompositeNumber or User:Mike Peel, could you please take a look at the edit request by Nardog: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js#Random unexpected failures at enwiki? —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-25

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding mediainfo to many files

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How to apply this edit to another 60 files? I have used Upload Master, but on last step it tagged only one file instead of all files from batch upload. MBH 12:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can use Petscan and Quickstatemnts for that like this
  1. Open Quickstatements https://quickstatements.toolforge.org
    1. Login to quickstatements from top right corner login link (you need to do OAUTH authorization before the Petscan->Quckstatement integration works)
  2. Open Petscan https://petscan.wmflabs.org
    1. In tab "Categories" click link "commons"
    2. In tab "Categories" add value "Interior of B-396" to the categories box
    3. In tab "Page properties" check the value "File"
    4. Click Do it! -button
      1. There should be 104 results
      2. In top of the result list is text box with text: "Command list; "P31:Q5" to add, or "-P31"/"-P31:Q5" to remove statements". Change the value to "P180:Q4073829"
      3. Click check all
      4. Click start QS
        1. In quickstatements click Run
--Zache (talk) 13:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Zache Thank you, all done. MBH 11:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Magnus Manske/sdc tool.js is way easier.
also, when you were using uploadwizard to batch upload, at the last step you can "copy statement to all files", which would have done exactly what you want to do. RZuo (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RZuo @Zache another question: I tagged English description of files as Russian [12] [13] , how to fix this? MBH 21:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would just use deepl, google translate, chatgpt etc to translate it to russian. Immediatly one could also just revert the edit, but in this case it doesn't work as system says that there is an edit conflict. --Zache (talk) 04:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MBH https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:View_from_Moscow_Sun_Ferris_wheel_19.jpg&diff=886167097&oldid=885974896
open the file page. a few lines below the file you can see two tabs "File information" and "Structured data". you can edit "Captions" in the "File information" tab. click the bin icon to delete a caption. click "publish changes" to save your edits. RZuo (talk) 07:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New changes to the "Depicts" step in UploadWizard available on Beta Commons

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Hi all! I wanted to announce that on Beta Commons a new version of the "depicts" step of UploadWizard is available for testing. This new version will be available until Monday afternoon. We're waiting for your feedback on it at the general Village Pump. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 10:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upload functions used by various tools

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Just wondering, is there a technical difference in the backend between the following ways:

Some observations:

  • I'd expect #1 and #2 to be the same, but somehow uploads are less likely to fail if one creates the file description page first and then uses the "upload" link there (#2).
  • The documentation for #4 mentions the api. Presumably this is the same being used by #5. The test I did with #4 seemed to work better than #3 usually does.

If ask for ranking the reliability of these tools, I'd say #5/#4, #2, #1, #3. Enhancing999 (talk) 15:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-26

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-27

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning up list of followed pages / How to limit an extended watchlist?

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Hi, is there a way to do a mass cleanup of the list followed pages? My list is so long that it frequently refuses to load (it times out). I want to keep a much smaller collection of files on the list. How can I mass remove selections of files, like the complete contents of some categories and their subcategories. What's the best practice to do this? Or even only follow what happens to my personal uploads. Peli (talk) 12:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

have you reviewed Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist? so that you dont keep adding much more to your list. RZuo (talk) 13:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pelikana: You can get the raw contents of your watchlist from Special:EditWatchlist/raw, and you can then edit it either in your browser or in the text editor of your choice. I can't immediately think of a way to winnow it by category, but it looks like it's sorted by when items were added so it might be that the items you want to remove are conveniently close together. --bjh21 (talk) 23:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks both, Now I have limited the new additions to my list by following the first suggestion. But for suggestion #2: any time I try to edit my watchlist I receive some kind of fatal error like this "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryDisconnectedError". So I never was able to actually edit something of it. Peli (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I got the raw list now and worked on it and want to know some details. Can it ignore lines with typos or does that give an error? And how to get the cleaned up list back in place, since the old list is so long that it times out in the replacing process with cut and paste. Peli (talk) 22:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that the most recent version of this file (which, according to the talk page is a 4K restored version of the film) was not uploaded properly and cannot be played: "No compatible source was found for this media." Can someone please fix this? Johnj1995 (talk) 03:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnj1995: Hmm, the raw webm file seems to work fine, but it won't play in the Media player. I would suggest filing a Phabricator ticket about it. You may need to revert it to the previous version for now. Nosferattus (talk) 22:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosferattus: Per the uploader's comment on a featured media nomination for another film that cannot be played, the error is related to this Phabricator ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357215 Johnj1995 (talk) 03:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SVG rendering on election maps

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I just uploaded a series of new maps for Icelandic parliamentary elections. I am seeing that despite the files being very similar, there are some inconsistencies with rendering of certain text elements. The circles should have abbreviations of the district names, these only appear in the 2021 map. In front of the party names there are boxes with the letters used to identify the parties, these sometimes don't show up. I have no idea why this happens. The font used is DejaVu sans which should work fine with Wikimedia. Bjarki S (talk) 09:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have identified the problem. For what ever reason, Inkscape decided to leave the coordinates (Y and X) of the missing elements as 0 in the tag tspan id. I'm fixing this manually in the XML editor. Bjarki S (talk) 10:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Occupation "greek-catholic priest" instead of "politician" in Wikidata Infobox

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Is it just me or is the Wikidata Infobox at Category:Iriana saying that Iriana's occupation is "greek-catholic priest" instead of "politician"? I checked the Wikidata entry on her and on "politician" and it says correctly "politician". Where is the "greek-catholic priest" coming from? (note: I'm accessing the page via mobile browser. I've checked mobile view and desktop view on mobile browser but the infobox display is the same.) Nakonana (talk) 20:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just checked infoboxes of other politicians on Commons and they all list "greek-catholic priest" as occupation instead of "politician". Nakonana (talk) 20:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe mention it at Template talk:Wikidata Infobox. Seems to come from [27]. Enhancing999 (talk) 08:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As this is already reverted purging the page to clean the cache should solve this. GPSLeo (talk) 08:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would you kindly do so? Enhancing999 (talk) 08:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Up to 147559 category pages are concerned: [28], but it seems to be better now. Enhancing999 (talk) 05:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it got fixed now. Nakonana (talk) 11:42, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A manual purge of Category:Iriana does not seem to do the trick. Nakonana (talk) 15:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harvest coord from metadata

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somehow coord of File:Ccmhj.jpg from an iphone 14 pro was not detected by commons. a bot to check metadata and fill the coords into sdc would be nice. RZuo (talk) 08:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annotations not showing

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It seems I was able to add image notes in the past here but now I am unable to see them or the add note button - File:Coleman_Bangalore_entomologists.jpg - any way to turn on the annotation button which shows up on other images? Shyamal L. 11:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shyamal, I am not sure if your problem is related but Fix the Image Annotator may be relevant. Commander Keane (talk) 05:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Commander Keane: Added my support. Jeez, never knew we could be that helpless in the open source world. Shyamal L. 06:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shyamal: I think voting has closed for that RfC. I support a techical needs survey that is always open to suggestions and voting on Commons though. Commander Keane (talk) 06:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic categorization of subtitles needs to be renamed

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If a video (e.g. File:1952. Аленький цветочек.webm) has Slovene subtitles (e.g. TimedText:1952._Аленький_цветочек.webm.sl.srt), then it is categorized in Category:Files with closed captioning in Slovenian, but the main category (and English Wikipedia article, for what it's worth) are called "Slovene", not "Slovenian", cf. Category:Slovene language. —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Special:Diff/894319705 --Geohakkeri (talk) 06:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hvala. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-28

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed from admins speaking javascript

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I am working on a backlog of {{Edit request}}s. I can handle most file, template and Lua requests but I do not speak javascript. Can an admin help with requests at Category:Commons_protected_edit_requests_for_interface_administrators? Jarekt (talk) 17:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A gadget to mute audio of a video with one click

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Is there any gadget/tool/proposal for such a button on pages for videos that have audio?

I think many files in Category:Videos featuring unidentified music need their audio muted and one example case of a video that (as far as I can see) needs to be muted is File:Beijing to Shanghai by train timelapse.webm.

It would be very cumbersome if one first needs to download a large video, modify it somehow (which most users can't readily, don't bother doing, or would take them long), and then reupload as a new version before tagging the page with {{Overwritten revdel}} which probably even most active users don't know about (and adding Category:Videos without audio).

Instead, it should be just a click that makes the server run some ffmpeg command to remove the audio or similar. I don't know if this has been proposed somewhere if it doesn't yet exist. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you imported the example video.
if you were not sure that the music is free, then you should have imported only the video using v2c! RZuo (talk) 05:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I noticed it only afterwards and this made me wonder about such a button; your comment is not helpful. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But why do you trust that the copyright statement at the source is correct for the video but not for the audio? GPSLeo (talk) 12:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because it was self-recorded by the youtuber who set this license? Also not helpful and offtopic. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]